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Sensible Shoes

Posted on June 13, 2015 at 6:45 AM Comments comments (0)

Sensible:  In the big book on p. 83

P 83 There may be some wrongs we can never fully right.

We don’t worry about them if we can honestly say to

ourselves that we would right them if we could.

Some people cannot be seen—we send them an honest

letter. And there may be a valid reason for postponement

in some cases. But we don’t delay if it can be avoided. We

should be sensible, tactful, and considerate

humble without being servile or scraping. As

God’s people we stand on our feet; we don’t crawl

before anyone.

Shoes: In the 12 & 12 on p. 48

P 48

Of course the depressive and the power-driver are personality

extremes, types with which A.A. and the whole

world abound. Often these personalities are just as sharply

defined as the examples given. But just as often some of us

will fit more or less into both classifications. Human beings

are never quite alike, so each of us, when making an inventory,

will need to determine what his individual character

defects are. Having found the shoes that fit, he ought to step

into them and walk with new confidence that he is at last on

the right track.

Depressive, private, have difficulty discussing things with confidantes.

AA is the avenue where I get help dealing with me.

There is no sensible amount of drinking.  It is zero per day.

That is for sure.

When Depressed

Posted on May 22, 2015 at 4:50 PM Comments comments (0)

The number one consequence when it comes to being depressed most of the time is the seeming impossibility of having meaningful relationships.  Relationships suffer when I'm stressed out:  I might lash out at people, stop going to social events or just want to be left alone. Aside from the lashing out, the same thing  happens when I'm just normally depressed.   Depression leaves people drained emotionally, mentally and physically, so it becomes hard to be there for friends and family.  The best way that I deal with what can happen when I get stressed out while being in depression is turning my protection and care over to my higher power and sometimes to the nurse at the clinic.  I trust my higher power to make things happen exactly as He wants them to be.  Stress is tough though.  To date I have not sufferd complete emotional, mental  or physical bankruptcy.  Thank you God. 

I find that I can keep away from the self pity of the depressed state by remembering that even mental disorders have benefits.  Back in prehistoric times, anxious individuals were keenly alert to dangers and were more likely than most to keep themselves, their family and group members alive.  Today, when given a photo of a hundred happy or nuetral faces, anxious people are faster at picking the one angry face in the picture, an abiliity that becomes useful when out at night wandering in a strange neigborhood.

Depression also has advantages.  When despondent, people think better.  It has been shown that people do better on memory tests in low mood conditions.   People have four times better memory about facts in the tests on gloomy cloudy days than they do on bright sunny days.  Depressed people are less likely to leave the gas on or the iron plugged in.

We do have our unique abilities and talents albeit we don't share them in meaningful relationships.  It's a living and I'm not convinced that there is any medicine or therapuetic treatment available which cures depression. 

Crack in the Armor

Posted on May 9, 2015 at 6:35 AM Comments comments (0)

To any other alcoholic,

Alcohol must have taken over my mind. Oh, that was crazy.  It  got kind of crazy after that odd miracle day called the sobriety date and kind of crazy that sobriety and change happened at all. 

Were there cracks in my alcohol armor?  Some deep inside vacuum sucking in something different.  Something spiritual.  After many failed tries.  That something spiritual seeped through enough and established a foothold on the inside and stayed.  That something spiritual established its own armor.

My something spiritual armor needs to be maintained or repaired when that spiritual something armor gets cracked and it needs to be maintained or repaired quickly and often.  The alcohol is trying to seep though to the inside and is looking for an opening.  The alcohol spirit thing seeks a place to survive.   It's war.

It requires work to maintain the armor. 

The bible says

Rom. 12-2

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.  And be not conformed to this world; but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

John 7-7

The world cannot hate you; but Me it hateth, because I testify of it, that its {the} works {thereof} are evil.

Eph. 6: 10-13

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.  Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.   For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.   Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Rev 2:1-2

Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

I get more understanding from the bible now than I did when I was interpreting the bible with alcohol.


Posted on May 2, 2015 at 7:50 AM Comments comments (0)

Hungry?, eat, ("carrots are better for you than sweeties").  Angry?, count to three slowly, ready exercise and one breath in, out and two beath in and out, three breath in and out.  Lonely?  Keep coming back.  In time, there will be plenty of things to do involving human interaction.  I empathize with anyone new and staying sober in a cave on a remote island without modern communications and conveniences.  Otherwise, try the online discussions or chatting places.  Tired?  Try the coffee.  Try the AA coffee. Try not to spill it.  Then exercise and then sleep.  Try to sleep regularly.    In early sobriety,  I regularly felt confused about how to handle life sober.   I sought help and relief in the meetings.  I went to several meetings a week.  The initial stigma of needing to go to AA vanished and I slowly tried to let help help me. 

I used the Serenity Prayer during early sobriety and it worked.   I began then to rely more on God and less on the people in the rooms of AA. Going to AA began to seem unnecessary.  At this point, in order to maintain my sobriety, I need to drop this attitude.  I should be participating in AA in some way to be present for the newcomer who arrives wanting what we have, another day of not drinkiing. Cooperation, reparation, acclimation and effectation are suggested.  Hesitation, suffocation, consternation, perterbation, Isolation, alienation, degradation, dissipation and derogation are not. 

Ventilation, relaxation, aspiration.  whew. relief.

Other AA people in a discussion meeting online had more to add about the H.A.L.T. acronym:


"Try to avoid getting hungry, angry, lonely or tired. What I found is that these things made me more emotional, confused and a little crazy. These things distort my perception, so they are best avoided if at all possible. I got sober in an isolated place and spend most of my time alone, but it does not mean I have to be lonely - if I have a computer I do not need to be lonely. Sometimes I did not have a computer or a phone, but I did have a big book, and somehow I was not lonely if I was reading that. Being totally alone also got me to start to pray in earnest to a power I did not believe in . . . . then I was not lonely because I discovered that there actually WAS a power - I felt it and I experienced it and I have never had to be alone again. Truly a miracle."

"Keep on going - you are doing great!"

"I was drunk for many years. Days and nights of bitter tears. Today I am sober and what do I find? The only thing I ever wanted. Peace of mind."

"Hang in there, I'm pulling for you. Just don't drink. Things will get a lot better. Hugs!"

Who wrote the St. Francis Prayer?

Posted on April 25, 2015 at 4:10 AM Comments comments (0)

 painted by Cimabue, 13th Century AD

Father Kajetan Esser, OFM, the writer of the critical edition of St. Francis's Writings places the first occurances of the St. Francis Prayer on holy cards in circulation in Europe during World War One.  Apparently, our St. Francis Prayer is a modern creation.

During Francis of Assisi's lifetime, Europe was participating in the Crusades against the Muslims.  He went to Egypt to meet with the Muslim Sultan (Where there is injury, pardon), a meeting in which a spirit of forgiveness, respect and understanding prevailed. 

Later in history, during the First World War, the prayer was found in a Normal Almanac on a holy card of St. Francis.  The prayer bore no name, but in the English speaking world, on account of this holy card, it came to be called the Peace Prayer of St. Francis.  The holy cards became popular with the common people who assumed so strongly that the prayer was written by St Francis that it was assumed to be so.  The St. Francis Prayer is a rare example of religious tradition generated by the laity.  The prayer eventually was adopted by the upper levels of the Roman Catholic church. The church by then, knowing the prayer's true origins made no fuss to correct the erroneous attribution to St. Francis.  They were Franciscan after all.

Prayer cards do not have special powers to keep people sober.  Similar to most sobriety tools, prayer cards can serve as a necessary reminder of our spiritual condition previously and presently.

Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace. Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy.


O, Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood as to understand; to be loved as to love; For it is in giving that we receive; it is in pardoning that we are pardoned; it is in dying that we are born again to eternal life.

Some Old Time AA

Posted on April 18, 2015 at 9:35 AM Comments comments (0)

 Alrighty Then. The topic is Alcoholism.  Yessiree. 

Health versus Habits

Posted on April 11, 2015 at 10:00 AM Comments comments (0)

Being an alcoholic and checking [x] No, means that I'm a winner today. :)
Sometimes life is as simple as yes or no.  
Sometimes there are other variables in the picture. 
You know what? 

"What is good for one man is not for another, but to the fact that some can rise under a weight which will crush others." 

A TREATISE ON A SOBER LIFE.   Luigi Cornaro(1467-1566), A Noble Venitian.

" Health is so necessary to all the duties, as well as pleasures of life, that the crime of squandering it is equal to the folly;

and he that for a short gratification brings weakness and diseases upon himself, and for the pleasure of a few years, 
condemns the maturer and more experienced part of his life to the chamber and the couch, may be justly reproached, 
not only as a spend thrift of his own happiness, but as the robber of the  public, as a wretch that has voluntarily disqualified 
himself for the business of his station, and refused that part which Providence assigns him in the general task of human nature."
Dr. Samuel Johnson. 1750

"It is a thing past all doubt, that custom, by time, becomes a second nature, forcing men to use that, whether good or bad, 
to which they have been habituated: nay, we see habit, in many things, get the better of reason.  This is so undeniably true, 
that virtuous men, by conversing with the wicked, very often fall into the same vicious course of life.  The contrary, likewise,
we see sometimes happen; viz. that, as good morals easily change to bad, so bad morals change again to good.  For instance: 
let a wicked man, who was once virtuous, keep company with a virtuous man,  and he will again become virtuous; 
and this alteration can be attributed to nothing but the force of habit, which is, indeed, very great."  L. Cornaro. 1548
I had a dangerous drinking problem.
I will not deal with the irreversability of it alone.

2015 Round UP Beach Meeting in Cape May N.J. Photo

Spring into Spring in AA

Posted on April 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM Comments comments (0)

Anytime of the year is a good time to get sober.  Anytime.  For me, when the weather started getting nicer and my life was getting worse and worse, I would then think about getting sober.  Once upon a few times, when I eventally needed to get sober because my alcoholism was so bad, it was Springtime.  Getting sober for real involves traveling around town to some easy to find AA meetings.  There, I learn from people just like me.  There are so many meetings.  I can just search the word spring and all these meetings and events have the word spring in them.


Address: Somerton Springs Swim Club, Bustleton Ave & County Line Rd.

Neighborhood: FEASTERVILLE


Day/Time: Sunday at 8:45 am

Type: OS

Wheelchair Accessible: Yes

Additional Info: only Sept thru Apr



Address: St. Kevin's Catholic Church, 200 W. Sproul Road

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Sunday at 8:00 pm

Type: OD

Wheelchair Accessible: Yes



Address: Princeton Presbyterian Ch., 933 Baltimore Pike & Church Rd.

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Sunday at 8:30 pm

Type: OD

Wheelchair Accessible: No



Address: St. Matthew's UCC Ch., 2440 Conestoga Road



Day/Time: Monday at 7:00 am

Type: C

Wheelchair Accessible: Yes

Additional Info: Daily Reflection -Effective 9/15/14 meeting begins at 7 AM



Address: Zion Lutheran Ch., Rt. 724 & Bonnie Brae Rd.

Neighborhood: SPRING CITY


Day/Time: Monday at 7:00 pm

Type: OBB

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: 1st, 3rd, 5th Mon-BB, 2nd-4th-Step Mtg



Address: St. JosephChurch 3640 Schuylkill Road

Neighborhood: SPRING CITY


Day/Time: Monday at 7:00 pm

Type: CL

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: meets in Parish House



Address: Spring City United Methodist Ch., Church & Broad Sts.

Neighborhood: SPRING CITY


Day/Time: Monday at 8:00 pm

Type: CD

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: Last Mon.-Open Spkr. Disc. Mtg.



Address: Church of the Redeemer, W. Springfield & Hillcrest Rds.

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Monday at 8:00 pm

Type: CD

Wheelchair Accessible: No


Meeting: SAFARI

Address: Princeton Presbyterian Church, 933 Baltimore Pike

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Tuesday at 7:30 pm

Type: CS

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: Speaker/Step Meeting



Address: St. Matthew's U.C.C., Route 401 & St. Matthew's Road



Day/Time: Tuesday at 7:30 pm

Type: CBB

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: Big Book



Address: St. Kevin's Catholic Church 200 Sproul Road

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Wednesday at 8:00 pm

Type: OSD

Wheelchair Accessible: Yes

Additional Info: next to Springfield CC



Address: First Presbyterian Church, 356 Summit Rd

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Thursday at 6:30 pm

Type: OST

Wheelchair Accessible: No



Address: St. JosephChurch 3640 Schuylkill Road

Neighborhood: SPRING CITY


Day/Time: Thursday at 7:00 pm

Type: CST

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: meets in Parish House



Address: St. Matthew's UCC, Rt. 401 & St. Matthews Rd.



Day/Time: Thursday at 7:30 pm

Type: CD

Wheelchair Accessible: Yes

Additional Info: Topic



Address: Royersford Baptist Church ,452 S. Lewis Rd.

Neighborhood: SPRINGFORD


Day/Time: Thursday at 8:00 pm

Type: OD

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: 1st Thurs.-Disc. Mtg.



Address: St. Francis of Assisi Conway Hall, 112 Saxer Ave

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Thursday at 8:30 pm

Type: CD

Wheelchair Accessible: No



Address: Princeton Presbyterian Ch., 933 Baltimore Pike

Neighborhood: SPRINGFIELD


Day/Time: Friday at 7:00 pm

Type: OT

Wheelchair Accessible: No

Additional Info: All are welcome



Address: St. Matthew's U.C.C., Route 401 & St. Matthew's Rd.



Day/Time: Friday at 7:30 pm

Type: CS/T

Wheelchair Accessible: Yes



Address: St. Matthew's UCC, Rt. 401 & St. Matthews Rd.



Day/Time: Saturday at 7:30 pm

Type: O

Wheelchair Accessible: Yes

Additional Info: Discussion

If I could ever get myself out of town, I could attend AA meetings or events around the world.

Ecuador has nice Spring weather year round, perpetual Spring and there are some AA meetings there.

AA Meetings in English (Cuenca):  There are English speaking AA meetings in Cuenca at noon every day of the week. The meetings are at Borrero 7-68 between Sucre and Presidente Cordova, Second floor, room facing the street. call 098-656-4887.

There are big Springtime AA events in Arkansas, Florida, in PA and at the New Jersey Shore.

The 38th Annual                                  


April 16, 17, 18, and 19 , 2015

Best Western Inn of the Ozarks Convention Center

Eureka Springs, Arkansas


THEME:    "...Willingness, honesty and open mindedness..." .


A Conference for Women in Recovery

 Reservations Are Open

 Reservations for the 2015 conference at the Day Spring Episcopal Conference Center, Parrish, FL will be done on their website: http://www.sisconference.com/

The Annual Spring Cook Forest Camping Weekend has been scheduled for May 15 – 17. More information will be coming, but gather your gear and mark your calendars now!

District 43

P.O. Box 912

Lemont, PA 16851-0912  Info@District43.com

Local AA Hotline (814) 237-3757

April 10, 11 and 12, 2015:  SEPIA ANNUAL ROUND UP

Grand Hotel of Cape May, 1045 Beach Avenue, Cape May, NJ   

Send check payable to "SEPIA Round Up" and registration form to:


444 N 3rd St Ste 3E

Spring Garden, Northern Liberties

Philadelphia, PA 19123

For more information contact: Fred S. at 484-238-8468, Cindy R. at 267-467-9620, , Elaine J., Nancy K., or April H. at the S.E.P.I.A Office- 215-923-7900215-923-7900. vicechairperson@sepennaa.org or Manager@sepennaa.org

AA Fellowship People, AA Fellowship Places and Things, One Spring Day at a Time.

It's already better.

More proverbial wisdoms set sail on yesterday's wind,

Posted on April 5, 2015 at 4:40 PM Comments comments (0)

“Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habit. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.”

― Lao Tzu

“The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.”

― Lao Tzu

“A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving.”

― Lao Tzu

“When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.”

― Lao Tzu

“The best fighter is never angry.”

― Lao Tzu

“Stop thinking, and end your problems.”

― Lao Tzu

Lao Tzu is pronounced  Loudzuh 

“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we're liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”  

"Our Deepest Fear" ~Marianne Williamson

Housework is something you do that nobody notices until you don’t do it. ~Author Unknown

Our house is clean enough to be healthy, and dirty enough to be happy. ~Author Unknown

Cleanliness is next to impossible. ~Author Unknown

The meal’s complete when the kitchen’s neat. ~Author Unknown

They’re sure housework won’t kill you, but why take the risk? Author Unknown

 This mess is a place! ~Author Unknown

I like hugs and I like kisses,  But what I really love is help with the dishes! ~Author Unknown

Please don’t feed the dust bunnies. ~Author Unknown

Law of Window Cleaning: It’s on the other side. ~Author Unknown

If the shelves are dusty and the pots don’t shine, it’s because I have better things to do with my time. ~Author Unknown

"Burn the idea into the consciousness of every man that he can get well regardless of anyone. The only condition is that he trust in God and clean house."  ~Alcoholics Anonymous, 1st. Edition,  Working With Others, pg. 98

AA is a Great Program

Posted on April 3, 2015 at 6:40 AM Comments comments (0)


The Foreword to the Second Edition Big Book claims: “Of alcoholics who came to AA and really tried, 50% got sober at once and remained that way, 25% sobered up after some relapses and among the remainder, those who stayed on with AA showed improvement.”  

 Is this claim true now or are success rates much lower now than the confirmed success rates of 1955? 

Let's analyze: "Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) Recovery Outcome Rates, Contemporary Myth and Misrepresentation", January 1, 2008.

The data in the Figure C-1 below seems to show a dismal 5% success for people trying AA for 12 months.

The tendency of some observers to offer a pessimistic view of AA today is based on a misreading of the graph shown above.  It has been extracted from a summary in a 1990 internal GSO report on AA Triennial Membership Surveys. The misreading of the summary report has been circulated widely.  

The title of the misquoted graph is "% of those coming to AA within the first year that have remained the indicated number of months.”

The hand-written graph above is at the center of erroneous assertions that contemporary AA has a 5% success rate outcome.  The sequence of percentages at the bottom ends in 5% above month 12 of the x-axis of the graph.  This 5% value has been erroneously interpreted as the percentage of candidates who stayed a full year and it is a completely inaccurate interpretation of what the 5% value actually represents.

The data plotted in Figure C-1 represent a subset of the overall survey sample populations.  The population subset reported a year or less since their first-time-ever attendance in AA.  The x-axis of the graph shows intervals of time for the first through 12th month of attendance in AA.

The Figure C-1 graph data were NOT retention percentages as has been frequently misinterpreted and erroneously reported.  The reasoning is as follows:

Each Triennial Survey is a cross-sectional study, a snapshot at one point in time.  Assume that the same number of new people have been attending their first meetings every month. That is how many will be in their first month when the observation is made.

The ratio of the second month people in the survey to the first month people is the retention rate between the first and second months.  In that same way, it is possible to find the retention between any two sampled months.  If there were perfect retention for all twelve months, then 8.3% of the first year people would be found in each of the twelve months. That is not the case but it shows how a retention calculation can be done. 

In the actual data presented:

Month 1 = 19 does NOT mean that "81% (i.e. 100% -19%) dropped out in a month as some sources claim.

Month 3 = 10 does NOT mean that "90% (i.e. 100% -10%) leave within 3 months and

Month 12 = 5 does NOT mean that "95% (i.e. 100% -5%) stop active participation in AA inside of a year.

Instead, what the data does show is that for every 100 people surveyed with under a year since first attendance:

19% of that population were in their first month.

13% were in their 2nd month.

9% were in their 4th month.

7% were in their 6th month.

6% were in their 8th month, etc.

We see in Fig. C-1 that half of those coming to AA within their first year (of not-drinking) were in their 5th-12th month.  We are not sure if they "remained that way". 

The confirmed claims of 1955 are:  “Of alcoholics who came to AA and really tried, 50% got sober at once and remained that way; 25% sobered up after some relapses and among the remainder, those who stayed on with AA showed improvement.” 

 Do these 50% + 25% claims only pertain in the years 1938-1955?

With furthur logical assumptions, Fig. C-1 reveals that roughly 50% of those in the third month ("really tried") were still in AA at the 12th month and roughly 25% reached month 12 in AA after some relapses.


1. "remaining in AA" means not-drinking.

2.   The data patterns are similar for 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc... time attenders (relapsers) in AA. (Why would they not be?  “For I am the Lord, I do not change."  Malachi 3:6)


When we add the x-axis percents, the total is 102 instead of 100 on Fig. C-1.  We have a 2% margin of error in the results due to the rounding of the percents on the x axis.

The chart reveals 19% of the attenders were in month one, 10% in month three and 5% in month twelve.

To show that the first claim of 50% is true from 1977-1989, look at 100 people which started going to AA and were at some point in the time of their first year.  Five were in the 12th month and ten were in the 3rd month leading us to conclude that 5/10 or 50 percent of the 3rd month people ("really tried") continued on to month twelve.

For the second claim of 25%, take any 19 of the original 100 people who relapsed and started over in AA (1st month).  Five of those 19 relapsers made it to the 12th month.  5/19 or 26 percent of the relapsers that started over at month one reached month twelve. ("after some relapses").  We can assume similar results for a range of relapse occurances.  (Why would we not? “For I am the Lord, I do not change."  Malachi 3:6)

50% + 26% is 76%.  With a 2% margin of error, Fig. C-1 clearly shows a 74-78 percent AA success rate over various 12 month periods of time between 1977 and 1989 supporting the original Big Book p. xx claims of 1955.

See the 1938-1955 confirmation of p. xx at:  http://hindsfoot.org/recout01.pdf

It's already better.

Live and Let Live

Posted on March 21, 2015 at 7:35 AM Comments comments (0)


Let Them Share

Posted on March 14, 2015 at 4:45 AM Comments comments (0)

The Alcoholics Anonymous meeting in theory is a safe environment where members can go and talk about their recovery as well as any problems they experience along the way.  The sharing can be highly therapeutic to all individuals including those that communicate their thoughts in ways that may seem a bit incoherent or off topic to those that communicate in a more formal manner.  Some individuals do not have rhetorical charisma or may take a long time to enunciate their specific concerns ( “What’s it all about boy, elucidate!” ) and may be judged there at that time to having an unsuccessful recovery.  The judgementalism is felt and it hurts. 

If the individual doing the talking communicates in ways which conform to normal Alcoholics Anonymous recovery standards, they then at that time are judged inspirational.  They apparently are building a successful recovery.  To inspire and be inspired is one of the main reasons why people continue going to the meetings. ( “I say, boy, pay attention when I’m talkin’ to ya, boy” )

The portion of the  AA meetings devoted to sharing is limited. The members get an opportunity to speak and share that time.  At most of these gatherings it is appropriate to discuss personal worries and concerns, but there can be some limitations on what the member should talk about such as the step meeting topic or a portion of the Big Book, a discussion topic or one speaker may be designated to share at the podium about their life before, during and after Alcoholics Anonymous.

A non-conformist to the protocols usually gets cut off while making the effort to share her legitimate concerns and feelings in her own unique or perhaps innovative style.  Oh yes.  She is judged and she is cut off.  Next!!

Chairpeople, please stop cutting off the people that you deem strange.  Listen.  Be there and listen.  You know that Foghorn Larry in the corner will share next anyway and repeat what he has said a thousand times.  Did you not hear the first 999?  I would rather hear twenty more minutes of the ramblings of the guy from the carboardaminium or from the lady from the shelter. 

Other folks in the room are probably listening to the accentric sharer.  She gets cut off when she is close to getting to her key points and when her story is just starting to make sense.  We can learn in Alcoholics Anonymous to be non-judgemental and not deem folks as "sicker than others".  The "some are sicker than others" stuff is fuel for resentments.  Oh yes, I have learned in the steps not to harbor resentments but how dare I fuel resentment in another person by claiming "some are sicker than others." Shame.  Shame.  Shame.  Judgemental.  Judgemental.  Judgemental.   ( “That’s what I’ve been – I say, that’s what I’ve been telling you, boy!” )

Let them share and share for as long as they want to.

Enough is enough.

If this is all deemed to be an outside issue, I disagree.  It is an inside issue.

( “You’re way off, I say you’re way off this time son!” )